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Thanks I'll give that a try

Actually I have been making them from scratch. I've got a big betty crocker cookbook. Falling apart problem seems to be solved by the new tin anyway. I've been mixing it in a big 1200w kenwood mixer so it gets mixed really well. The cakes meant to have some fudge frosting for it which is nice...

I have found an absolutely delicious chocolate cake recipe which I'm sure a lot of you here already know about as its the normal betty crocker chocolate cake. I made it once and Whole thing fell apart coming out of the tin. Must be very soft I thought, no matter just went and bought a tin that...