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Hello, I am going to try to make a birthday cake. I thought a 3 or 4 layered sponge with buttercream between the layers then fondant icing to completely cover the cake. Does this sound feasible? Also will the buttercream go off, I need it to be edible for a good few days as I need to make in advance and transport it.thank you
 
Hi @grannybaker

Yes, you can make a buttercream layer cake with 3 - 4 layers depending on how good the structure of your layers are. If you just filled it with buttercream and decorated the top, then the structure of the layers wouldn't be that much of an issue, but because you're adding weight with the icing fondant you'll need to ensure the cake has a good structure. Otherwise, it will sag.

When I make a birthday cake, I tend to make a full cake and then cut it into layers; I do this because I find a full cake cut into layers doesn't give me ridges in the sides and holds its structure (I tend to use a Madeira cake for birthday's because it has a denser crumb, but you can use victoria sponge, but again I would make two cakes and then cut them into layers. But that's me. You do what works best for you.

I cover my cakes in jam to stick my icing fondant to it because I'm not a lover of buttercream, but it you are using buttercream, you will have to crumb coat it first and then apply another layer before you cover it with fondant.

For easiness, I tend to put buttercream in the centre, then cover in jam and then cover in fondant so you don't have to faff about waiting for a crumb coat, but that's just me. You also have to ensure that you use enough buttercream to stick the icing but not too much that it eats through the icing.

Regarding the buttercream, if it is regular buttercream with butter/icing sugar and a touch of milk, it will be fine sealed in a cake for a few days (even sometimes up to a week) as long as you store it in a cool place where it won't melt.

I'm not quite sure what kind of cake you are thinking of making, but here are a few links to tutorials I have done to see if they help you.




I hope I haven't overloaded you with info, but if you need anything else then let me know.

Best wishes


Angie 👨‍🍳
 
Hi @grannybaker

Yes, you can make a buttercream layer cake with 3 - 4 layers depending on how good the structure of your layers are. If you just filled it with buttercream and decorated the top, then the structure of the layers wouldn't be that much of an issue, but because you're adding weight with the icing fondant you'll need to ensure the cake has a good structure. Otherwise, it will sag.

When I make a birthday cake, I tend to make a full cake and then cut it into layers; I do this because I find a full cake cut into layers doesn't give me ridges in the sides and holds its structure (I tend to use a Madeira cake for birthday's because it has a denser crumb, but you can use victoria sponge, but again I would make two cakes and then cut them into layers. But that's me. You do what works best for you.

I cover my cakes in jam to stick my icing fondant to it because I'm not a lover of buttercream, but it you are using buttercream, you will have to crumb coat it first and then apply another layer before you cover it with fondant.

For easiness, I tend to put buttercream in the centre, then cover in jam and then cover in fondant so you don't have to faff about waiting for a crumb coat, but that's just me. You also have to ensure that you use enough buttercream to stick the icing but not too much that it eats through the icing.

Regarding the buttercream, if it is regular buttercream with butter/icing sugar and a touch of milk, it will be fine sealed in a cake for a few days (even sometimes up to a week) as long as you store it in a cool place where it won't melt.

I'm not quite sure what kind of cake you are thinking of making, but here are a few links to tutorials I have done to see if they help you.




I hope I haven't overloaded you with info, but if you need anything else then let me know.

Best wishes


Angie 👨‍🍳


Thank you very much, I will have a look at all of your info.
 
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Hello again, sorry. I might try, as you suggested, making a deeper cake and slicing in two. I have a springform tin, would this leak or could it be lined?

You can line the base of the springform tin. I line the base of my PME anodised tins (the one on the right) and use cake release spray so the cakes slide straight out when baked.

Cake Tin Differences by Help Me Bake.jpg

I used to use the other tins, but they have ridges in them, and they left lines down my cake, so I swapped them out for the new PME ones.

If you make a cake and slice it in two, I use a cake leveller to ensure that the cut is precise and level. I have freehanded in the past and ended up with a wonky cut, but if you've got a steady hand then your good. :)

If you're worried about leakage, line the tin to contain the mixture and then place it on a baking tray in the oven. That stops anything leaking anywhere.
 
You can line the base of the springform tin. I line the base of my PME anodised tins (the one on the right) and use cake release spray so the cakes slide straight out when baked.

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I used to use the other tins, but they have ridges in them, and they left lines down my cake, so I swapped them out for the new PME ones.

If you make a cake and slice it in two, I use a cake leveller to ensure that the cut is precise and level. I have freehanded in the past and ended up with a wonky cut, but if you've got a steady hand then your good. :)

If you're worried about leakage, line the tin to contain the mixture and then place it on a baking tray in the oven. That stops anything leaking anywhere.
Thank you very much
 

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